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05-27-2007
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| | Real Difference in SEEM Edit between A1200E and A1200 w/EDGE I finally installed 29p for A1200E...and noticed intermittent internet problems after installing the firmware (same experience as the 01p A1200E firmware from a few months ago). I started to compare "our" EDGE seemedits with the ones that came with the A1200E 29p by default and noticed some significant differences. I believe our original seem edits didn't really turn on EDGE....and the A1200E seem edits that really turn on EDGE (as shown on the A1200E firmware - see below) breaks the internet functionality (maybe hardware difference between the two) Anyone with 29p installed on a "non-A1200E" (i.e. the orig A1200)...please report if your internet is working. Meanwhile, I'll keep messing around with the seemedits and will report back on results.
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Element ID= 0341
Record #= 0001
Offset= 0000
Length= 0001
A1200 Orig w/o EDGE:
FF
ROKR E6 EDGE / A1200 with EDGE Seem:
01
A1200E 29p w/ EDGE by default:
00
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Element ID= 0340
Record #= 0001
Offset= 0000
Length= 0008
A1200 Orig w/o EDGE:
0000000000000000
ROKR E6 EDGE / A1200 with EDGE Seem:
0905030201020000
A1200E 29p w/ EDGE by default:
09FFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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Element ID= 02AF
Record #= 0001
Offset= 0000
Length= 0008
A1200 Orig w/o EDGE:
002700FA20000000 (yours maybe different)
ROKR E6 EDGE / A1200 with EDGE Seem:
007500FA20000000
A1200E 29p w/ EDGE by default:
007500F800000000 | 
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| | thanx for ur effort dude....i just flash my original 1200 with 29p edge and i don't have internet workin...i have tried everythin but now i know why lol thanx for ur continued effort | 
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| | This would be interesting to know, when you have finished your research let me know and i can make a new script for everyone based on the new code if indeed it works better then the old one.
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| | No internet either with 29p or 01p. | 
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| | Have you realized that both of these firmwares are TRI-BAND? you have to enable 850 yourself. Just like the E6
SEEM 0032-0001 ROKR E6 MODDED length 0200
D6EA89BE0208020084FD7F6C01F07161000000016BBCA
0C4C112FDA1A83807F74103E00E00002010E005009C0000003E
833D093128E0D50C0E0100A880AD8990FAA4EFF60671DE81E1A0
DA1F311644133BAFE3965B68040042310A00D20C608EC019FA1D1
AFFFFD55CF0FBA12500500DA74020804FA13F070300208000000101
400000000000FEFEFF03400000010000000000000000000800002C720
0000000000000000000000200000000000000000000000000000000004
001262626262626262600000000C800000096000000EA0000012C000
000C8000000000000000000000000000000000000000A0000003700
00003C00000064000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
00003C000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
0000000000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000
0000000000000000000000003700000000000000000000000000000
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
00000000000000000000000000000000000030000000300000003
SEEM 0025-0001 MODDED length 0001
0B
SEEM 0171-0001 ROKR E6 MODDED length 0028
0051007500610064002000420061006E0064002000470053004DFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF | 
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| | Thank you Pondo for your input, but I tried it (copied the seem line by line) and it didn't fix the internet problem for me (maybe everyone else may have better luck).
I did notice though that the only difference in 0032-001 between 29p default and your proposed 850mhz one is that yours display "FEFEFF03" vs 29p displays "FEFEFF07" toward the end of seem. Nonetheless, turning it to "03" didn't fix the internet problem either...even though "03" should have technically turned off EDGE and it still didn't fix the problem.
On the topic of 850mhz though, I did some research and these are the exact bits that "supposedly" enables QuadBand:
Element ID= 0032
Record #= 0001
Offset= 0050
Length= 0001
SEEM EDIT = 3B (i.e. bit 0 has to be enabled on hex offset 50. BTW 29p is already set to 3B by default)
Element ID= 0025
Record #= 0001
Offset= 0000
Length= 0001
SEEM EDIT = 0B (Again, 29p is already set to 0B by default)
Finally, 0171-001 is supposed to change the "text" in www008w...according to other forums...0171-001 only serves as a comestic change...so i'm not sure if it actually turns on any actual "capabilities" in this case 850mhz.
Element ID= 0171
Record #= 0001
Offset= 0000
Length= 0028
SEEM EDIT = 0051007500610064002000420061006E0064002000470053004DFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF (this was where 29p differs from Pondo's recommendation - so I made the change and it nows says QuadBand in www008w, but again I'm not sure if it actually does anything other than cosmetic)
So in summary...the default 29p seem edits appears to already be enabled for 850mhz and QuadBand (except that 0171-001 was set up to display "tri-band")...in any case, my internet is still not working=( | 
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| | have you tried the original seem edits to enable edge in this firmware? | 
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| | Pondo - thanks for the feedback. Yes, I applied both the original EDGE seem edit and 850mhz seem edit...and still no internet.
After I apply 850mhz seem edit, do I need to turn anything on via the OS or does 850 work automatically? Also, did you get 29p to work wih EDGE and 850mhz?
At this point, there's three possibilities why this thing is not working.
1) Despite applying the 850mhz seem edits, I still didn't turn on QuadBand...yes, I know www008w tells me it's quad, but supposedly 0171-001 can modify that text, so there's no assurance from that alone.
2) Since I've already applied the original E6/A1200 EDGE seem edit and still no luck, I suspect that there must be another EDGE seemedit entry that we are not aware of. Which would explain why we havne't seen any performance difference from turning on EDGE in the older A1200 firmware.
3) The A1200 OS may be different than the A1200E OS. Or the hardware is different.
I'm using Cingular here in the US. Although internet is working intermittently...I find that Opera mini is more consistenly working than the Opera browser that comes with the OS. Anyone have a different experience? Could there be something wrong with the browser? | 
05-29-2007
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| | My provider, here uses 850 & 1900, i turned on 850 because i thought i would get better reception, still, the phone is working on the 1900 band, as it is Comcel's primary. Comcel, my provider, is the only one with EDGE in my country. I got internet working, i really like this firmware, so much in fact as to forgive the lack of spanish in the OS. Internet drops too a lot, i really thing there is a seem edit there that is messing with our internet reception, ill keep trying and posting everything i find. Still, its kind of dissapointing the lack of attention this firmware has received by premium members like Mischka and alpha and others. | 
05-31-2007
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Originally Posted by Pondo My provider, here uses 850 & 1900, i turned on 850 because i thought i would get better reception, still, the phone is working on the 1900 band, as it is Comcel's primary. Comcel, my provider, is the only one with EDGE in my country. I got internet working, i really like this firmware, so much in fact as to forgive the lack of spanish in the OS. Internet drops too a lot, i really thing there is a seem edit there that is messing with our internet reception, ill keep trying and posting everything i find. Still, its kind of dissapointing the lack of attention this firmware has received by premium members like Mischka and alpha and others. | Despite the lack of interest in 29p...can someone that haven't installed 29p yet try out my proposed EDGE settings on a non-29p firmware (i.e. 24p, 30p or 59p)? I want to find out if these default A1200E EDGE seemedits will improve the network performance on our original firmwares. The proposed settings are in the first message of this thread under the heading "A1200E 29p w/ EDGE by default." I would try it myself, but I'm already running 29p and don't want to go back to other firmwares just yet. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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